Wednesday, September 10, 2008

Great People Were The Product Of Rape Meme

Here is an example of this meme from Tara Sloan:

Although it is a tough issue, I am even anti-abortion in the case of rape. Great people like Jesse Jackson and James Robison were both products of rape. They are examples of how God will restore.

The core problem is this justification boils down to, "Great people were the product of rape so that's why I'm anti-abortion even in cases of rape."

The problem with this meme is that if this justification is truly valid it justifies not only making it illegal for those who are pregnant through rape to get abortions, it justifies making it illegal for rape victims to get emergency contraception. It also justifies ignoring rapists altogether since their actions produce great people.

If great people are produced then nothing else matters.

This meme also makes rape and any subsequent pregnancy something which comes directly from God. That's a very dangerous message to send to rapists who while being anti-abortion can have no respect for human life.

If you believe that it is wrong to have an abortion, don't have one yourself.

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At September 10, 2008 10:17 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tara Sloan endorses force and violence as means of procreation. Somehow I can not believe the Good Lord would endorse impregnation of a woman by force and violence.

At September 10, 2008 3:21 PM, Blogger ginmar said...

This is part of the 'Oh, it's just life,', when men abuse women. It's like the weather, it just 'happens.'

At September 10, 2008 3:39 PM, Blogger Hawise Gadarn said...

This also leaves open the question on how awesome the children of these mothers would have been if they had come from a loving relationship. It ignores the awesomeness of the women involved and how they managed to make a life for their children that allowed them to become great. Of course we all know that mothers aren't a part of the picture.

At September 10, 2008 3:51 PM, Blogger Bob King said...

What anon says.

I'll gladly applaud anyone who chooses to have a child when it would be harder for them than, say, being a stay-at-home suburban mom in a gated community and a partner with full medical coverage with affordable daycare next door.

Circumstances matter - and I do not think that it would be a well-received counter argument that all those who could be impregnated, carry to term and make "ideal" parents should be forced to do that.

At September 10, 2008 4:09 PM, Blogger Erica said...

I'm iffy on rape exceptions. I'm completely pro-choice, but there's an element to rape exceptions that bothers me to no end. If one believes that abortion is wrong because it takes a human life, then the details of its conception are irrelevant. A rape exception only matters if one is arguing that some women "deserve" abortions, and others don't.

At September 10, 2008 4:11 PM, Blogger Deana said...

Um, was abortion even legal in the 40's?

At September 10, 2008 5:31 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

And perfectly awful people (such as rapists) result from intended pregnancies. This meme is ridiculous.

At September 11, 2008 2:18 PM, Blogger ginmar said...

Deana, no, it wasn't, though it regularly showed up in the scandal sheets.

Er..since when is James Robison anybody?

At September 11, 2008 9:01 PM, Anonymous m Andrea said...

There is a boatload of reasons you are amazing, and this post was just one.

If any negative action is supposed to be ignored because of a potential positive result, then EVERY negative action should be ignored.

I like this game. It's okay to kill rapists because that might prevent future crime. It's okay to abort fetuses because some criminals will be eliminated.

At September 16, 2008 7:32 PM, Blogger Tara Sloan said...

Interesting take... thanks for the linkage...unfortunately, abortion has become birth control in this country... according to statistics... "assault rape pregnancies are extremely rare. Most pro-lifers have heard this comment, but too often cannot back it up with facts. A candidate for office in the State of Arkansas made this comment before the last elections. He was roundly criticized and ridiculed by the opposing candidate and the media. Unfortunately, there was no evidence that he offered substantive proof to back up his claim that rape pregnancies were rare."

I know you'll never agree with me, but I am a big enough person to agree to disagree.. ain't this country great!

At September 16, 2008 9:01 PM, Blogger Marcella Chester said...

Tara, if you are big enough to agree to disagree then you must be for allowing all women to make their own choices and not have the government or a group make that choice for her.

If you want your position to be forced on others through anti-abortion laws then you do not in fact agree to disagree.

At March 27, 2009 5:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a "product" of rape. I am 100% pro choice. If you are pro life that is your opinion but if you are pro life except for cases of rape thats like saying that child is some how less deserving of a chance to be born than a child who would be born from rape. Which is like saying I have less of right to be here.

At April 04, 2010 2:48 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was raped in my sleep by my friend of nine years.It wasnt violent because I was asleep.I didnt know it happened until 9 months later when I gave birth to his child who I thought was my boyfriends.But who is ever going to believe me?My boyfriend does,and we are still together,but my main concern is my child,who I love even more just because of the way she was conceived.Im glad in a lot of ways that I didnt know or I may have aborted.I cant find any stories that match mine.If anyone can help please let me know.

At April 04, 2010 4:33 PM, Blogger Marcella Chester said...

Anonymous, My heart goes out to you and I'm glad that you have a daughter you love. I'm sure other women are dealing with similar issues but I don't know where you can connect with those other women.

Because of potential legal issues over parental rights I suggest that you contact a non-profit which provides free legal information for victims of rape. One organization is


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