You are insane if you think you are making a valid point. This concept of ‘education of womens feeling and rights’ misses the mark entirely because of your subject emphasis; is rape. (And rape culture? You must be kidding!) No shit it’s not accepted! No shit it’s not tolerated! But it will happen because BAD PEOPLE EXIST. Not because men lack the proper sensitivity. If you had real world experience you would already know this and you would not have to make up stories and ‘friends that said’ to state your clique and bigoted opposite view point. Poor writing my dear. Now be a real woman and leave this post up! Take the criticism as harsh as you like to hand out!Here's my comment of response which I wrote on that post:
Jen, just because you refuse to get the point of this post doesn't make the woman who wrote it insane.I had additional thoughts about this comment by Jen which didn't fit into a comment. Since this type of comment is echoed in many similar ones girls and women get when they speak out against boys and men treating their sexual boundaries as meaningless, the mindset behind it is worth analyzing.
Clearly your personal values differ greatly related to unwanted actions taken against women by men. If you are okay with certain actions that only applies to actions taken against you. Just as men have no right to cross women's personal boundaries, you have no right to nullify other people's personal boundaries.
The willingness to nullify another person's boundaries is needed for people to justify the types of sex crimes you would never mock. Bad people don't just exist, they are formed by the beliefs they hold and the standards they are held to.
By invoking the "you are insane" argument Jen is abandoning logic for personal attack. Jen is refusing to think about any perspective except Jen's own perspective and justifies this refusal by declaring those who think differently as insane. This is laziness and entitlement at it's extreme since Jen feels qualified to make a mental health assessment of someone Jen has never met and most likely without any mental health training.
Jen has no interest in getting the point of this post and instead wants only to vent anger against someone who speaks out against having her personal boundaries violated and who puts the full responsibility onto those who take the unwanted actions. Speaking out against those who dismiss sexual harassment and the harm it causes would not be seen as insane if Jen didn't agree with those called out in this post.
Jen has chosen to make contradictory claims. 1) Bad people exist. 2) The behavior of bad people is not tolerated, is not accepted. The problem with these 2 claims is that if this behavior were not tolerated, those who report it or discuss it would never be met with responses like Jen's. The way many people dodge this contradiction is to either deny that the behavior happened (behavior is a lie) or to deny that the behavior is in fact bad (impact of behavior is a lie). Jen does this by making the allegation that the author has made up stories. This allegation has as it's only possible foundation the belief that bad people do not exist, something Jen has specifically claimed not to believe.
If Jen truly believes that bad people exist and their bad behavior is not tolerated, Jen would always hold the bad people 100% responsible for their actions. However, in Jen's comment all the anger is directed at a woman who disclosed being subjected to sexual violence.
The claim that "bad people exist" is not only false since it implies that bad people spring fully formed bad, it also allows those who make this claim to justify apathy. If boys don't learn values which make the difference between them being willing to sexually harass and/or sexually assault girls and/or women or not being willing to take these actions then we can ignore boys and men's values when it comes to how they interact with girls and women.
Since most people understand that we teach children right from wrong and that a toddler's shoplifting isn't caused by innate badness and also shouldn't be ignored, it shouldn't be a challenge to understand this concept of learning when right and wrong involve respecting or violating other people's personal sexual boundaries.
Labels: Violence Against Women